Curse

Man With No Name · Sep 02, 2005, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann

Um, sometimes energy is not as good as the extra armor. Sometimes its better to have a strength boost than a weapon skill boost. Why the hell would you wear just knight's boots? Not like you get hit in the feet very often.

Other than that, good list.

Everyone, take a deep breath and prepare to read a lengthy explaination...

As for why you should wear the Gladiator Set + Weapon Helm + Knights Boots

You'll usually want your weapon mastery bumped up to Rank 16 ( 12 + Sup Rune + 1 Hat ) -- for 15% more damage always when compared against someone at Rank 12. Eviscerate will do a whopping +43 dmg at Rank 16 -- and Final Thrust really hits hard too

Check the table HERE

If I:

- Raise my Mastery to 16 ( +15% )
- Use a the weapon that has +15% Damage mod ( like the Collector items )
- And customise it ( +20% )

That's 50% more damage I'm doing on every swing. Add in Frenzy and you can take down foolish casters amazing quickly >)

With an Eviscerate + Exe Strike combo, if they both critical I can hit for 200+ ( unbuffed ) adding another +80~ for the deep wound inflicted -- that's worth more than any fancy looks IMO

Why the Gladiator boots / gloves ..??

The protection from the Knights Boots/Gloves is only 80 AL -- although it "reduces damage from attacks"

....So using the Knights Chest Piece would be unwise when compared with the Gladiators ( 80AL +20 vs Physical ) or Platemail ( 85 +10 vs Physical ) -- since the chest region receives the majority of the hits. Hence we use the Knights Boots on an area that won't get hit often...

Again check HERE for information on armor and hit locations

The damage reduction from Knights Boots is global. It applies to every armor piece and stacks with your Absorption Rune. I think it's a -2 damage reduction. Adding extra pieces of Knights armor does not improve the benefit.

.....So that'll be:

Sup Absorption ( -3 ) + Knight's Boots/Gloves ( -2 ) == -5 damage received on every attack. In other words by wearing the Knight's boots/gloves your getting the benefit of a Sup Absorption and a Major Absorption rune

4 Pieces of Platemail + Knights Boots/Gloves is the best combination for protection against Elemental damage -- although it's a minor difference ( 5AL ) when compared with Gladiators.

The Gladiators + Knights Gloves/Boots gives an extra 6 energy ( if you follow the setup I posted ) and best protection vs Physical damage. You'll lose a tiny, unnoticable bit of defense against Elemental damage for more functionality -- a good trade off as you can always add a +7 vs Elemental Mod on your weapon

With that extra 6e I can do an extra Plague Touch and I have the ability to use 25e spells.

The +1 Strength helms are usually pointless too -- as long as your strength is around 8 or 10 -- that's enough -- you'll get more benefit raising your weapon mastery higher by using a +1 weapon hat

In a sentence -- the Platemail and Knights sets offer no noticable advantages when using the full set and cost more... It's bad enough having trash skills like Warrior's Cunning ( tied to Strength oO, crap cooldown ) and Berzerker Stance ( crap cooldown, ends on skill ) -- so why penalise yourself even more...??

Bear in mind -- I was really commenting on PvP -- wear what the hell you like for PvE -- you'll be disadvanted although it won't matter as much...

Savio · Sep 02, 2005, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Going back OT, last night I was forming a group for FoW. Had a party of 8, people paid me...then I went to the Voice of Grenth

I guess it was a force of habit after too many smite runs.
About half the team dropped after a few Aatxes, but the funny thing was, I pulled 3 ectos off of that run. I think only 1 other person got an ecto. Possibly one of the better mistakes I've made.

syrius el barbarian · Sep 02, 2005, 05:48 AM // 05:48

Personal n00b moment:
I always place an ID kit, salvage kit, and an expert salvage kit in the first 3 slots of my inventory

That being said, I sold a sword to this guy, but he decided that he didn't want it anymore after a few minutes, so I gave him a full refund. I tell him that the sword was worth much more than I had sold it to him for and etc. I was about to continue selling until I realized that the weapon was gone from my inventory! I PM him back and I start accusing him of being a scammer, but upon further inspection, I find the sword back in my inventory where my ID kit usually is (I forgot to buy a replacement). The "scammer" was confused and I just played it off as if I PM'ed the wrong person.

n00b encounters:

1) A while ago I was looking for a max Chaos Axe (when they used to be cool) with a +dmg mod while enchanted or >50% hp. I get a PM from this person and he tells me to take a look. He shows me the axe, and it is a clean 6-27 war axe or something. I refrain from bashing him and tell him that it doesn't have a dmg mod and that it isn't even max or a Chaos Axe. He tells me that if 6-27 is max and dares me to show him something higher. I put in the trade window my max clean Chaos, which I was looking to replace and he just leaves.

2) While selling, I like to warp from district to district and town to town as do many others. I forgot what I was selling, but it was at Lion's Arch and after doing a run through the first few districts, I receive a PM from someone asking to see it. I ask him what district he's in and he's like "WTF, OMG, r u kidding me, u n00b!? I just saw your ad and I'm in the same district as you are, dumbass." Some namecalling ensues while I tell him the benefits of warping from dist. to dist. He eventually gives in and realizes his n00b-ness and asks to see the weapon, which I refused to sell to him for his behavior

3) Some guy I was selling to today said nothing in this game sells for 100k, so I sent him to this site to look at the Crystalline Sword that was price checked for like 80 billion gold

Guild n00b stories

1) Well, my guild mate did this the other day. Our guild was doing the Iron Mines mission so a few people could catch up. He's a Necro/Mo and told us to run when we clearly told him that we were fighting our way through the mission. He refuses orders and runs ahead of the group and just stands there by himself while we're all fighting. He keeps telling us how easy it is to run through, so we let him run it and he stays alive until the tundra giants. We all laugh and rez him eventually. He continues to run ahead of the group and waits for us to finish fighting. We reach the hill going up to the Seer and he decides to run again to "save us the trouble." He "forgot" about the azure shadows and he tries to evade them by aggroing them back to us and gets our monk killed. We all laugh at him again and rez him...again. We finished the mission eventually, but our guild mate still has problems following directions sometimes.

2) After finishing the Dragon's Lair mission I think, or whatever the mission is before Droknar's Forge, a guild mate forgot to talk under guild chat and said under all, "Ohhh, so this is the real way to get to Droknar's"
Everyone in the district started laughing their asses off

Son of Mooky · Sep 02, 2005, 06:59 AM // 06:59

I love clicking on the enchant and watching them drop dead. They never think it is strange they go from dead to full power in the first place. Although I like to wait until the battle is over and then turn it off when they take their first step.

Shanaeri Rynale · Sep 02, 2005, 07:52 AM // 07:52

First time in the fissure - Alone and by myself I talked to the Ghost,

Wolvenbear · Sep 02, 2005, 07:54 AM // 07:54

I think these are more annoyances then anything but can qualify as noobish.

1) I'm playing my W/Mo in Thirsty:
Other W/Mo: WTF are you using mending for n00b?
Me: To activate the enchantment feature on my axe. It negates the bleeding effects here, too.
W/Mo: n00b you don't need mending it sux turn it off.
Both monks agree with me so I opt to leave mending on and eventually we go. On the third round of fights Ghostly is in trouble after uber W/Mo rushed the monk boss and died, taking with him the monks that were trying to heal him. N/Me and I are only ones left alive.
W/Mo: OMG rez me rez me
Me: Hey Nec can you cast a WoP please?
Nec: Inc.
W/Mo: stfu n00b and rez me.
(Nec and I kill the priest and I have the boss aggroed on me)
W/Mo: F'N rez me!!!!!
Needless to say I take my time rezzing the other three members of the team. We kill the boss so one monk can cap and then finish off the last Enchanted. Whole time W/Mo is screaming for a rez.

2) First trip to FoW I take my Necro. I let the party know this is my first trip, what skills do they want me to equip? Get a few replies, pay my share, in we go. One of the monks asks me to stand by him and just cast WoP/B.Rit mostly so I do. Warrior rushes everything and doesn't call targets so I'm frantically trying to set up WoPs and keep the monks' energy levels up. Warrior complains I'm not doing anything so the monks stop healing him. When he dies and complains about it the leader monk tells him to shut up and never complain about their energy battery again. I love monks.

3) Playing my E/Mo in Hell's Precipice today. We discuss skills before leaving. I'm spec'd for Water/Fire for this mission because we have two monks and a Winter ranger. We get into battle, I see the Winter icon appear, and start tossing out the Fire AoE's. Warrior (why do I only have trouble with Wars?) starts yelling to stop casting Fire spells because they're worthless. Ranger kindly points out the Winter icon and tells him to read the freaking description. He shuts up for a while. Later we get to the portals and some of the bosses have dropped Greater Conflag spirits. He decides to kill them first and ignore the titans. Once again we point out Phys Damage = Fire damage. Ranger drops winter and Fire damage = cold damage. Therefore, phys = cold. Takes him about 5 minutes to get it. Makes me wonder how someone can get to the very last mission and not know how to read the skill descriptions in the effects bar.

4) Playing my W/Mo in Dunes I join a 4/6 group. We pick up a monk.
Me: Hey monk are you heal, protect, or smite?
Monk: STFU
Me: Just want to know so we can get a healer if we need to.
Monk: Kung Fu
Me: ??
Monk: STFU
At this point I guess he's a smiter so I whisper the party leader to get a healer monk. He says no that any monk is as good as the next. (I should have left at this point). He picks up a tank. Party setup is Wx3, E/Mo, Necro, and Monk. Get into the battles and I notice everyone's HP bars never have that magical upward spike to indicate there's someone healing. Ele admits he's Fire/Smite. I'm the only W/Mo and only brought rez + mending. Monk decides he wants to solo a seige worm and dies after a few hits.
Monk: WTF y u no heal?
Me: Because you're Kung Fu. You don't need heals.
Yeah... I was a total n00b at that point. He starts yelling the same old profanities. Leader whispers everyone except Kung Fu to map to dist 2 and we'll take Alesia. Did so, beat the mission with no trouble.

neoteo · Sep 02, 2005, 08:12 AM // 08:12

in fissure , we clean first part , no problem , a few dp on warriors , but still good to go , after taking the 10k exp quest , we continue , we decide to clear that first area , instead of going left , so we clear preaty much everything , when only the mobs that have the green spot , and the one on that castle are left , people start leaving since dp was 60 for almost everyone , but we where all alive , monks where doing an amazing job not geting killed , running away and rezing all , yes , the team was not godly perfect , we died a lot , but hey , we are inside , and all alive , wth lose faith ?

i hate leavers - noobs !

in the end me and one worrior lure the rest of the monsters at the door of the castle , killed one by one , i think we killed 2 or 3 , lol , then he died , .. i had no more rez signet , so i made suicide run to the center of the castle , my first time inside , scary !!!!

i know i sould change my second profession to monk , but i love so much the sprint spell , its hard ... but eventulay i will ...

Banebow · Sep 02, 2005, 08:24 AM // 08:24

Down in FoW, almost done with the Wailing Lord quest. Had lost...1 member I think, but we still had 1 warrior left, as well as all the monks (I was one of them) and other casters. Well, DP was a bit high as we had gotten mugged by the skeleton beserkers that are around the Wailing Lord, but had not yet gotten to talk to him, so we still needed to kill them all.

But thats ok, we will all sit in a small corridor and let the warrior wall the front, so that the casters are safe. Well, time to start. Our ranger pulls the skeleton hords..and the warrior runs back, through the tunnle he was supposed to be walling, right up until all those bloodthirsty beserkers where on top of the monks.

Needless to say, we died then.

hmm...the worst 'newb' moment I can think of for myself of the top of my head is the fact that I did not know about ToA (and so did not know about FoW or UW) till well after I had finished all the missions.

That or the fact that when I first started playing, and when I took charm animal off my skill bar, I had no idea what had happened to my pet.

neoteo · Sep 02, 2005, 08:38 AM // 08:38

ok , this is almost a doble post , but you inspired me to say this
when i go to hoh with a godly guild friend of mine , i fell a complete nood in TS , its amazing how they know almost what every spell does , what are the best combinations etcetc , i had to stop playing with them , i dont have time to study so much the spells .. im hoping with time i will reach that level .. sometimes i join the ts server just to enjoy professionals playing ...

in my missions runs , the time i felt really noob was when i got to rock , and was completly lost ... took me some time to figure the 3 missions

and also , someone run me to ToA , and then to fishermans heaven , then to sancum , so i missed about 4 missions , so i was in river at level 17 or 18 ...
people start saying , dont take low level , i had no clue what i have missed , lol

noob <- heheh

trelloskilos · Sep 02, 2005, 09:01 AM // 09:01

I was playing for a bit with my second character (Mo/Me) who was at Greddich Courthouse. A low level W/Mo called out that he wanted a group to run to Yak's bend (no, he's NOT the n00b in this story), so we got a decent varied team of 4 people for the journey.

One of them, an E/N seemed to be very concerned about his DP. At one stage in Diessa, we took a wrong turn. three of our group died, and I was left to res them. No problem. I got the team back together, and we continued, but this time, with the E/N complaining that he had -15% DP and that we should go back. Well, we were almost at the portal to the foothills, so I thought the best option would be to carry on. The leader agreed with me.

The foothills were tricky. All of us suffered at the hands of the hydras, and once again, the E/N kept on spamming his DP percentage. We were all pretty much on at least -30% -45% but the group had held, thanks to at least 2 of us having cool heads and knowing when to back off.

Finally, we reached Travelers Vale and got up to the bridge guarded by ice golems, ettins and stone summit. I suggested a run, seeing that we were close to Yak's Bend. We'd just be ressed there if we died and get to the mission. Again, the E/N asked if it was a good idea. and that his DP was 40%. We ran, and the first (and only one) to fall was the E/N. Just as we ran confidently into Yak's Bend, he left the group.

After the usual gg and patting on the back with the other team members, I sent him a whisper asking why he had left. He said "Well I died, and no-one was coming back for me. I wouldn't have made it". Oh dear....!!

Kabale · Sep 02, 2005, 01:08 PM // 13:08

Heh, there's only one n00b moment I can think of that I had... With my first character (Me/Mo), I spent ages trying to find a 2nd bag. I had got the belt pouch and the 1st bag, but for some reason I thought I needed to look for an 'even bigger bag' because of the different sizes of the icons when there's no bag present...

Vhayr · Sep 02, 2005, 02:39 PM // 14:39

Not my n00b moment, but pretty funny nonetheless.

I was in the Yak's Bend Arena with my second character, waiting for the gates to open, and some Warrior from the other team says "Press alt+f4 to see the score!" and the next thing you know, he's the only person left in his team.

Heh.

Charcoal Ann · Sep 02, 2005, 02:44 PM // 14:44

i always laugh when i see: !!!!!!!!!!Experienced Runner to Dorknans Forge! 3k!!!! guaranteed arrival!!!!!!!!!!

uh huh. experienced?

sidepocket13 · Sep 02, 2005, 03:09 PM // 15:09

i was in Gates of Kryta last night with my lvl 20mo/me i just went back for the bonus. grouped with a few people and i ended up getting 3 dye drops. at the end of the mission i figured i would be nice and offer a gold max sheild with 8 req (no mods) to 1 of the warriors, for free. he looks at it and freaks out that its "Hax0rzz" and he is going to report me......... i was confused. but it was funny as hell.

Jaythen Tyradel · Sep 02, 2005, 03:23 PM // 15:23

During Beta:
I was very new to the game nd still experimenting with the differnt build options. I played the Warrior and leveled him up to a decent level. While at the merchant..I sold my sword.

I went farming for one and couldnt find one.
So I took my starter hammer that I had in my bag and thought: "Hey maybe the acdemy will have new items!" Not knowing at that time academy was PVP match. Of course, failed miserably. Now during beta, there was only one NPC to help you (Stefan) if your teammates dropped out. No prince Rurick. or anyone else. SO I got stuck there not being able to complete mission or go back.

Darth Lamblike · Sep 02, 2005, 06:47 PM // 18:47

I was at a message board today where the topic was to share N00b stories with each other. The noob moment comes in when I actually responded. OMG!!!11!!1!1eleven

Oh well, I will try to learn from my mistake.

Lampshade · Sep 02, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

I got one.

I'm doing Thirsty River, my last mission. We have 2 warriors (me being one) 2 eles,a necro, and monk and a a ranger. We all decide to kill some giants for Morale. We spot a giant and tell the ranger to pull him. He starts running towards the giant getting withing range and then he hits stormchaser.......

We're ******.

He runs right by the giant, does a huge loop and then starting running twoards us. l think screw this! I hit sprint and start running to the cutscene. I look back and theres at least 2 giants, and 5 mobs of Devourers.Anyways I manage to get to the cutscene and we ask the ranger wtf he was doing. He said I dont use bows. (note he had a bow equipped at start of mission but when we started to fight he pulled out a staff, No he didnt have a pet)

Zakarr · Sep 04, 2005, 04:23 PM // 16:23

This conversation is not from the worst n00bies but at least annoying in my opinion. He didn't stop even I explained. Blamed me because bolt of linen price was down. Like I would be the major factor to define the price. It is true that linen is not worth much and selling it to trader will keep the price down but it has been at 200g about couple weeks.

Others will sell if I don't.

Doryn · Sep 04, 2005, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Selling a MAX purple flameberg for 200g...

Melkor of ZoSo · Sep 04, 2005, 08:01 PM // 20:01

"Originally Posted by MuKen
This one time, I took my W/Mo out for a spin on the first mission, and ended up in a group with 3 monks. 2 of them wanted to change to smiting and attacking builds, OMG!!1eleven wtf n00bs. I tried to explain to them that a monk's job is healing, and I would do all the fighting cuz I was the fightar. It took liek 20 minutes but I finally convinced them to become healers.

So as soon as the mission starts, I run around and try to gather up as many enemies at possible so we can take them down all at once, and the st00pid monks are screaming "wait!" the whole time. What whinegers, would you like some cheese with that? I was all liek "a good monk can solo tons of mobs on his own, and there are 3 of you along with a l33t w4rrior, so stfu!" After we finally start fighting, I died like 5 times, what a bunch of carppy monks, couldn't even keep a **W/MO** alive!

Afterwards, they keep spamming "my energy is blah". Like, stfu! nobody cares what ur nrg is, so I go running off to finish the mission, and all of sudden all of them are like "fark this", and leave the mission. So it turns out it wasn't just a group of n00bs, but also griefers. Hope none of you ever has problems like this"

Are you kidding? You're a W/Mo who thinks he can agro a bunch of mobs and kill them all? Tanks aren't suposed to kill things... You sound like the noob of that group, pal